This is an English-language summary of the 45th episode of the Dunakavicsok podcast, a Hungarian-language podcast dedicated to the world of new tourism.

The June 2026 episode features Csendes Olivér, the recently departed CEO of Visit Hungary, who speaks publicly for the first time since leaving the agency. In an interview conducted by Nagy Szász István,he reflects on his professional experiences in Austria and Hungary, the similarities and differences between the two countries’ work cultures, and the real reasons behind his departure.

The conversation explores what Austria and Hungary can learn from each other, how cooperation across the Danube region could be deepened, and which European-level tourism collaborations between thetwo countries are already taking shape. The episode also addresses data-driventourism and digital ecosystems, highlighting Hungary’s NTAK system as a world-class platform, while pointing out that trust-related challenges around its use still need to be resolved.

Olivér also shares thoughts on his future professional direction, while a light-hearted quiz offers listeners a few more personal insights. The hosts, Kovács Balázs, an international tourism expert, and Nagy Szász István, a hotel professional, also discuss the broader political and regional context of Danube cooperation, including relations between the V4 and C5 country groups. The working titles “Gödöllő Six” and “Schönbrunn Six” are mentioned for the first time.

The episode also reviews recent and upcoming milestones in sustainability strategies and Hungarian tourism governance. It argues that building the world of new tourism requires moving beyond theWestphalian state model, in which countries pursue tourism success separately. Instead, the future lies in networks, regional cooperation, and shared good practices. In this spirit, the Dunakavicsok podcast aims to continue serving as a platform for collecting, interpreting, and explaining forward-looking examplesfrom the world of new tourism.

The English-language recording was created with the help of artificial intelligence as a summary of the original Hungarian episode.